I thought this might be of interest for those practicing law in NYC…
Life Outside of a Law Firm: Non-Traditional Careers for Lawyers
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 6 PM
Registration:
NYC Bar Member Price : $15.00 Register
Non City Bar Member Price : $25.00 Register
You’ve always heard that a law degree is beneficial because it provides so many career options. The panelists on this program are all former lawyers who have taken both their legal knowledge and skill sets and transitioned into careers outside of a traditional law practice. The panel will discuss the paths they each took, and how their training as lawyers continues to play a role in their careers.
Moderator:
MICHAEL MELCHER, Next Step Partners; Author, The Creative Lawyer: A Practical Guide to Authentic Professional Satisfaction
Speakers:
MARCI ALBOHER, VP, Civic Ventures, a think tank on boomers work and social purpose; Author, “One Person/Multiple Careers”; Former Shifting Careers blogger/columnist, The New York Times
JUDY GROSS, Coordinator of Literacy and Volunteer Programs, JCC, Manhattan; Director, Gift of Literacy Programs (after school), PS 75 and PS 165; Reading Specialist/Intervention Team Leader, PS 75
ASHLEY HUFFT, Chief of Staff and General Counsel, Millennium Promise
SUSAN WIVIOTT, Deputy Executive Director, Jewish Board of Family and Children’s Services
Sponsored by:
Committee on Career Advancement and Management, Carroll Welch, Chair
Registration is necessary. The fee is $15 for members, $25 for non-members.
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I found this to be quite interesting!
From the WSJ law blog:
We have a friend who lives up in Boston. Harvard undergrad, Yale Law, district-court clerkship with a highly respected judge.
After her clerkship, she landed at a well-known and well-regarded Boston-based firm. She hated just about every minute of it. The partner she did most of her work for was an anxious and twitchy Blackberry addict. Her colleagues stumbled through their days glassy-eyed and overcaffeinated, then drank themselves silly on the weekends. Our friend thought about quitting the law. Maybe it wasn’t for her, she thought. There must be something better.
But she stuck it out long enough to land a good in-house job at a Boston-area company. And life is different. Much different. She loves her job, loves the company, leaves the office at a reasonable hour to take care of her kids. She has a good salary, stock options, and feels connected to something in a way she didn’t while at the firm.
Thing is, this tale isn’t unique. Far from it. Everyone reading this blog knows someone who’s trod a similar path — from BigLaw misery to in-house bliss. Were we giving advice to someone heading to law school today, after trying to convince them not to go, we’d tell them that the in-house path is the one that glows golden; that law-firm partnership is for freaks — freaky in that they don’t need much sleep or read the UCC on their vacations or are just preternaturally ambitious. Partners, we’d argue, are born, not made. If, as a second-year associate, you find yourself weeping in your office more than once a quarter or, on Friday nights, draining more Jagerbombs than you did as a college freshman, think hard about getting your tush in-house.
Fine. So where is all this leading? Here: a breath of spring in a job market that’s been wintry for far too long. According to the Association for Corporate Counsel’s most recent chief legal officer survey, in-house hiring is on the way up.
Nearly one-third (29 percent) of the 970 chief legal officers who responded to the ACC survey said they planned on adding to their departments this year, up from 23 percent in last year’s survey, Corporate Counsel says.
Of course, this doesn’t mean that the floodgates have opened. Nor does it mean that in-house jobs are going to be easy to get. (It also might mean, as AmLaw’s Zach Lowe observes, that law firms might get less work.) But it reaffirms in our mind that, especially as general counsel increasingly start kicking a little tail — doing more work and telling their law firms what they’re going to pay and how — for a lot of folks, they’re the place to be.
I love reading stories like this about lawyers becoming entrepreneurs. Enjoy!
From the Small Business section of the Wall Street Journal
“I wanted job security, so I got a job at Sills Cummis & Gross P.C., a New Jersey-based law firm that does work on Wall Street,” Arrick said. He specialized in commercial real estate transactions as well as corporate finance.
After getting laid off in 2008, Arrick went on job interviews in Dubai, where he hoped to get in on the real-estate boom there. He accepted a job, returned to the States to pack up his things, but his offer was then rescinded because of the local financial crisis.
“When I came back to the U.S., I had no idea what I was going to do with my life,” Arrick said. “I went to every museum twice, went to every free event New York had to offer, and because I couldn’t afford to eat out, I became a really good cook.”
Just when things looked bleakest, Arrick found his calling. Strolling around one day in the West Village, a neighborhood in downtown Manhattan, Arrick spied people lining up around the corner for Magnolia Bakery’s cupcakes. This piqued his interest in the business.
The most common question most people wonder when reading a story like this (especially one dealing with a laid off lawyer) is how was he able to finance his small business? Here’s how Arrick did it:
To start the business, Arrick pooled together $20,000 from a few different sources. He maxed out his credit cards to the tune of $10,000, liquidated his 401(K), and cobbled together $5,000 in savings.
Right now, Arrick has a staff of five, including the baker. He runs the operation out of a commercial kitchen space in Queens. There’s no storefront yet, but he hopes to open a store downtown in Manhattan this spring.
So how are corporate legal skills transferable to running a bakery selling masculine cupcakes?
Arrick’s journey doesn’t look like it’s going to slow down any time soon. He’s been approached by brides, asking if he’ll do wedding cakes, and by the Food Network, suggesting that he audition for “Cupcake Wars.” He wants to expand into Chicago, Miami and Los Angeles by the year’s end.
“It’s surprisingly a cutthroat environment for cupcakes,” Arrick said. “But my negotiation, corporate and LLC compliance, and accounting skills have served me well. Plus, I can draft complex agreements and contracts.”
The lesson to be learned from Arrick’s jaunt down Pastry Avenue and Whipped Cream Street? First, the skills you pick up on the Street can serve you well anywhere, even in a bakery. And second, if you can’t stand the heat on the trading floor, maybe it’s time to get in the kitchen.
To read the whole article, click here.
I wanted to let my readers know about a unique scholarship opportunity for attorneys in transition:
During these difficult economic times, many attorneys find themselves in transition. The remnants of the events that have transpired over the past 18 months will remain with our industry for many years to come, and many firms have had to diversify their practice so as to remain relevant. As individual attorneys have had to acquaint themselves with new areas of practice, and displaced attorneys have had to meet their mandatory CLE requirements, PLI has been there to help.
PLI has been acting in service to the legal community since its inception in 1933. In accordance with our nonprofit mission, we have provided scholarships for attorneys in need — more than 9,000 were awarded in 2009 alone. As many of us know attorneys who might like to avail themselves of this PLI service, we thought that this would be a good time to remind you of its existence. Our scholarship application is located under the Pro Bono/Scholarship tab of PLI’s website at www.pli.edu.
Of course, PLI continues to offer scholarships to all legal professionals who seek to learn skills that will assist them in pro bono activities and are eligible for scholarship assistance. In addition, we continue to offer Pro Bono Privileged Memberships to public interest and legal aid organizations that seek to further the training and ability of their members.
From the Wall Street Journal “Laid Off and Looking” blog:
Start the search as soon as possible: I was let go on a Friday and was visiting with a placement organization on Monday. Some folks told me to take a month off, but I do not recommend doing that. Like it or not, you will have some time on your hands; why wait on getting started?
Network: I made a huge mistake in not keeping up with my network while with ADP. Since I was starting from scratch, I had to spend a few months of unemployment building up my number of LinkedIn contacts. Now that I have a new job, I have made a vow to send out some sort of correspondence quarterly and more frequently as needed.
Get added training: Take advantage of the unfortunate downtime to further your classes – especially in something that could boost your chances of landing a new position. In every interview I had, I was asked: ‘What have you been doing since being let go? Taking on new training shows initiative and the desire to add value to yourself. In addition, my new role does utilize some of the skills I learned in the training I had taken last fall. Having that was a big plus for me.
Hit the job boards: While the boards get a bad rap, I had success with them. A number of interviews came from the sites. As with anything, balance is key — you don’t want to focus on only one search method.
Volunteer: Find a local charity or worthwhile cause where you can spend some of your time. I volunteer with two groups and will continue to do so. This not only gave me a feeling of self worth, but just like taking added training, was something I discussed on interviews.
Stay positive: Keep churning through ads, networking events, targeting, informational interviews, and other job search tools. Somewhere along the process you will come across a fit and land a job. The more folks who know you, the better your chances are of your name getting in front of someone that can use your skill set.
Above the Lawposted an interesting interview yesterday with a former biglaw attorney turned psychotherapist.
To read the whole article, click here.
Here are a few of the insights which I found rather interesting as a former biglaw attorney myself:
At least in my experience, there is a marked absence of kindness in the law firm environment. People are competing – fine – I can see that in plenty of work environments. But there’s something more in the big firms. I think it derives from deprivation feelings. When a person feels deprived of what he needs, a famine mindset can form. Coming from a place of hunger, you grow mean, rapacious, grasping. You think only of yourself because you haven’t the sense of abundance that would permit you to reach out with a plenitude to share with others. Big law firms starve you of friends, of free time, of control over your own life and decisions, of praise and appreciation for who you are and what you do. Surviving in such an environment, living off scraps and crumbs, you lose your ability to project kindness to others. Instead you turn inward, and your hunger shows in small acts of cruelty that are contagious – and pernicious.
Lawyers are angry because they are treated badly – but they can’t complain about their treatment. When I tried complaining or advocating for myself at Sullivan & Cromwell, or even to my friends, I got the “well, what did you expect for over 100 grand a year” speech. People essentially told me to shut up – I’d chosen this, I’d sold out, I’d taken the money and now the firm owned my soul. Didn’t I know the big firms were Satan? What was I – retarded? That sort of thing.
Truth be told: I had the fortune, and still do, of working with great lawyers who give back to their community and are very nice people too. But there are always those partners or associates who take themselves way too seriously, who make me wonder where the animosity is coming from? Thinking of lawyers being stuck in survival mode (hoarding hours, on edge, always fearful of losing their place, deprived of control over their lives) helps explain why there are lawyers who make work toxic for their colleagues. I personally found this very insightful.
Ready to make a change in your legal career but not sure how to do it? Some attorneys want more satisfying jobs in the law; others want to try something completely different. Reading legal postings or simply changing jobs isn’t going to do it.
Come uncover a simple process for finding work you love inside, outside, or around the law. This interactive workshop provides three simple-but-powerful steps to finding the career that’s right for you!
If you are in Atlanta next weekend, please come join me on Saturday, February 20 for a dynamic CLE on crafting the career you want beyond the traditional practice of law.
For the details, click here.
I sought out a meeting with career and life coach Laurie Gay after reading her blog. Laurie’s an ex-Simpson Thatcher attorney who used to bill over 3,000 hours a year and now travels all over the world coaching clients on career and life issues. We hit it off immediately and there has been great synergy between our businesses ever since (discussions are in the works for a joint program together at some point).
I was so flattered when Laurie included my blog as one of her “heroes” today.
For the whole post, click here. Otherwise, here’s the lovely mention she gave this blog:
Rebecca Vandiver. If you’re a lawyer, you MUST read her blog. Even if you’re not a lawyer, just a discontented employee, read this. She finds all the cool lawyers and ex-lawyers that are happy practicing or happy that they left. She presents you options you’ve never thought of, and you’ll realize that you’re not trapped in your job, or out of luck if you’re laid off.
After I returned from Africa, I wrote about wanting to get out of my comfort zone more and give back to people, animals and places in need. It turns out sometimes you don’t have to look very far for opportunities to connect with your community.
Every day women and children are exploited in our own city and across the globe. They are usually powerless and marginalized with few to plead their cause. Like many lawyers I know, I’ve wanted to do pro bono work for human rights issues and unfortunately just haven’t. Perhaps that is because I haven’t wanted to do more legal work in my free time (which is something I am resolving to change this year as part of my new year’s resolution).
For those of you interested in human rights issues and in Atlanta, this weekend One Twelve Gallery will be hosting a conference to combat sex trafficking and modern day slavery through the lens of art, media and speech.
Here’s the schedule:
Thursday, Feb. 4, 7-9 p.m.: talk with artist Ted Haddock / screening of Kavi, short film on modern slavery in India, with Oscar-nominated writer/director Gregg Helvey
Friday, Feb. 5, 6-8 p.m.: grand opening of one twelve gallery / photography of Ted Haddock
Saturday, Feb. 6, 9:30-12:30 p.m.: atlanta united / meet and talk with local groups combating sex trafficking in atlanta
If you are looking for a way to give back, help others and engage in a meaningful way with your community or just support local artists, then I look forward to seeing you this weekend!
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